Readthroughs and Random Thoughts

Writing about what I'm reading…

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Thirty-something fangirl reads through and metas on literary material, section-by-section. Sometimes– but mostly not– with snarkiness.

 

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1/5/13: An update to this: this has turned into a chapter-by-chapter recap of two series of books: one being Manna Francis’ Administration series, which I have wanted to discuss with people and meta on since way back when; the other being E. L. James’ Fifty Shades books, which I felt I should read if I was going to snark about them. (And read and snark IĀ do.) I was initially going to add a few more serials to the mix, but in the interests of keeping it consistent, and preserving the few shreds of sanity I have left, I’m not really planning to at the moment. I’ve been finding the comparison between these particular two series interesting, since on the surface they share a couple of similarities, and I’ve been enjoying the discussion on both books. I’m planning on working my way through both serials over however long it takes me to read and recap them.
Please keep in mind, these are my observations, and your mileage may vary on things, though debate and discussion is always encouraged. Also, I swear like a trooper and will talk about things which may not be in everyone’s taste. (Given that one series is known as “Mommy porn” and the first book in the other series has “fuck” in the title, one would hope this is a bit of an idea of what you’re going to find in Readthroughs and Random.) A final warning: while I’ve done my best to offer trigger warnings for sexual violence and victim blaming and dubious consent issues in the stuff I’m reviewing (fans of The Administration will be aware of relevant warnings since Manna Francis mentions them herself) there may be things I overlook which may be distressing for readers.

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  1. mannafrancis on said:

    Hi! Manna here šŸ™‚ I hope you get some notification of this comment — I don’t really know how WordPress works.

    I was wondering if it would okay if I left the occasional comment on your Mind Fuck read though? Definitely NOT anything disagreeing with or critiquing your review, because that isn’t anything I ever do. But reading through the posts some things came to mind, mostly to do with story structure or writing process, that I thought you might find interesting.

    Or if you’d rather do it my e-mail, or rather not hear from me at all, that’s totally fine, too! I feel a little bit guilty even leaving this comment, because I don’t want to cramp your style.

    • OMFG, YES! Thankyou so much for popping over. And thankyou for The Administration. (I got email notifcation, btw, but I had absolutely no idea for about ten minutes, where and how to reply.) I’d love to hear from you! Hell, I go into “OMGYAY” mode when ANYONE wants to meta about one of my favourite series with me, so, um, when it’s the creator of said series, erm, “FUCK YEAH!” seems to come close to articulating it. šŸ™‚ I’ll admit, too, I’m also really interested in the writing process and how it works for people as well– I don’t write original stuff any more, but I still find the behind-the-scenes stuff fascinating.

      I wouldn’t have put this up if I didn’t want to encourage discussion (and also because I hope that it might introduce new readers to the series in some way)! I’m still a bit stunned that you’re here, TBH… thankyouthankyouthankyou.

      You have created something that I love in the way that people like Joss Whedon and George Lucas and George R R Martin have for other people; a series that I have seriously obsessed over and wanted to meta about with everyone and one that I feel on some level connects with me. Thankyou for THAT, too. ā¤ ā¤ ā¤

      • mannafrancis on said:

        Awesome!

        I promise I’ll be restrained. I’ve got into some horrible messes in the past trying to engage in meta discussions, where it’s ended up in a weird competition with people trying to get me to validate their arguments so they can ‘win’ with some kind of Stamp Of Authorial Approval, which seems to me like it entirely bypasses the point of meta discussions about stories. Plus, I absolutely hate the idea that I might on some level spoil someone’s enjoyments of the series by not agreeing with them about something. So normally I just stay well back. But it’s been a while, so I’ll dip my toe in the water again šŸ™‚

  2. Thistle on said:

    Forgive me for butting into the conversation, but is there a way to turn comments on for your posts? I’d LOVE to see what Manna would like to add, and if they were in comments on the post, I could see without seeming like some kind of scary stalkerperson peering over shoulders. šŸ™‚

    Also, unrelated, thanks for slogging through 50 Shades! I twitch at the idea of reading it myself, so it’s great to see it through a rational, reasonable person’s eyes.

    • I THINK I’ve turned on the comments here (I’m a bit surprised that I have to approve stuff… it’s odd) and unless I’m getting ads for Viagra, etc. I’ll approve everything.

      And thanks! Like I said, I’m rewarding myself with The Administration (though I’ll be honest, I am SO EASILY DISTRACTED on 50 Shades that it’s not funny) though the contrast is making me very irritated.

      @Manna : I would LOVE to see what you have to say, though I know what you’re talking about; I haven’t seen it happen to you but I have seen it happen in the past. (If you know the HP series, I’ll admit, I was a gleeful little shit who giggled like whoa when it came out that the Blacks were related because I remember some Sirius/Narcissa shippers previously being really nasty about less conventional ships being “gross” and suddenly the author made it canon that their one was incestuous. Childish of me, I know; I’d like to think I’ve grown out of that.)

      I can’t speak for anyone else, but I remember in another of my fandoms; Ace Attorney– there were people who were heartbroken for awhile when the Word of God said that no, Phoenix and Miles weren’t going to hook up in canon. I was very much like, “Well, I never expected them to and that doesn’t mean I can’t enjoy or meta about what’s already there, what’s going to happen, and my interpretation.” We don’t see the world as it is, we see it how we are and all that. šŸ™‚

      I don’t mind what anyone says or does as long as I don’t get spammed with ads for pharmaceuticals and people aren’t being intentionally awful to one another. I’m glad there’s some discussion, TBH!

      • mannafrancis on said:

        I admit, I’ve laughed at ship wars, too. And having been in an RPS fandom back in the day when RPS was Teh Evol That Would Destroy Fandom, I did find it pretty funny when suddenly Supernatural was HUGE, and the slash choices was basically incest or RPS šŸ™‚

        But I would never tell someone their ship was wrong, in the Administration or otherwise. I’ve liked too many minor and non-canon pairings myself. I mean, if someone wanted to ship…I don’t know…Chevril/Sara, and write fanfic about them living happily ever after and having ten adorable kids together, why would I want to harsh their sparkle? Hence, staying away from meta, because sometimes just saying, “Yeah, Chevril/Sara, I don’t see that one being canon any time soon” is enough to take some of the joy away from someone’s ship.

        (Apologies to any hypothetical Chevril/Sara shippers out there, but, yeah. Probably not. Although if you do exist, it’s an awesome ship and you should ship it like crazy!)

      • Thistle on said:

        Yep, it looks like comments are turned on! Yay!

      • cynical_romantic on said:

        Chevril/Sara, eh? Now that’s unlikely — which makes me want to think about it as a challenge. So, let’s see… I could totally see Sara getting bored and deciding to try to seduce Chevril just for the fun of it (and of course to tell Toreth all the juicy details later on.) What Chevril’s motivation would be is another story, with the lovely Elena at home… but I’m sure I could come up with something.

  3. My favourite pairing in one of my current fandoms is a completely NOWHERE NEAR CANON thing. It started out as a hypothetical thing, I wrote it and then went, “Yanno, I can see this being really interesting.”

    In HP, I shipped the HELL out of Lucius/Percy. I knew it wasn’t going to happen, just like my Ace Attorney pairings aren’t going to happen. BUT I DON’T CARE. šŸ˜€

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